Wednesday, January 07, 2009

FAN DEATH IS REAL

Dear Korean,

Last year when I was in Korea I learned about the phenomenon “Fan Death”, which quite astonished me. How could a simple fan kill a man while he's asleep in a room with windows closed? In other words, why must the window be open when you're running a fan the whole night?

Donghun

Dear Korean,

Do you have any idea where the myth of Korean "Fan Death" might have originated from? And why practically all Koreans to this day still believe in it so vehemently?

Sandra P.

Dear Donghun and Sandra,

The Korean wishes to start the New Year off with a bang, and what better topic than the fabled Fan Death to do that?

Let’s take first things first. Here is the definition of Fan Death: Koreans believe that during summer, in an enclosed room (i.e. all doors and windows shut), an electric fan running directly on your body could kill you while you sleep. Elderly, children, and people sleeping drunk are at the greatest risk. To prevent this, Koreans either open a window a crack, or use a button on the fan that makes it either oscillate or shut off after a certain amount of time.

How does a fan kill? The most common explanations that Koreans generally offer are two. The most prevalent explanation is that the fan used directly on your body causes suffocation, because the fast-moving air around your face makes inhalation difficult. Alternatively, some Koreans also offer that breathing through skin constitutes a significant proportion of breathing, and the fast-moving air caused by the fan makes the skin-breathing difficult, leading to suffocation.

The other prevalent explanation is hypothermia, i.e. abnormally low body temperature. The idea is simpler – fan lowers body heat through dehydration, ultimately to the extent that it could kill.

If these explanations sound ludicrous, that’s because they are.

The Korean has had a complicated relationship with Fan Death. The Korean definitely believed in Fan Death while living in Korea. There was no reason not to – everybody believed in it, and the media reported a case of fan death around once or twice every summer. (Like this article, for example.)

Then, once emigrated to America, the Korean was astonished to learn that only Koreans subscribe to this idea that fans could kill. Once the Korean thought about the explanations he had heard, it was plain that they made no scientific sense. As the Korean went through his self-hate phase (because to varying degrees, all Korean Americans go through this at some point in their lives,) he thought fan death was a prime example of how Korea remained primitive.

The Korean was not the only one who thought that way. Until the recent Mad Cow protests, Fan Death has been the favorite topic of anyone who wished to ridicule Korea. Belief in Fan Death is supposed to show that Koreans lack “critical thinking”. There is a whole website devoted to it: www.fandeath.net. The Wikipedia page describing Fan Death is, reading between the lines, dripping with contempt. Even a good-natured Korean blog like Stuff Korean Moms Like uses the Fan Death picture to describe the strangeness of Koreans. Similarly, requests at Mythbusters (best show EVER) asking to debunk Fan Death are interspersed with such bile as: “Do you seriously expect anyone to do a TV program to determine whether untold generations of inbreeding on the Korean Peninsula resulted in a bizarrely maladaptive genetic defect that would cause the carrier to die from a slight breeze on their face and this defect finally manifested itself only after the invention of the Electric Fan?”

All of the above is fine and good, except… Fan Death is real.

Here is the science of how a fan could kill. Remember the conditions under which Fan Deaths happen – summer (=heat), enclosed room, fan directly on the body. An electric fan cools your body by pushing cooler air onto your body. But clearly, the fan does not generate the cool air on its own, unlike an air conditioner. So what happens when it is very hot, but the entire room is enclosed such that no cool air comes in from outside?

Basically, the entire room turns into a gigantic turbo oven. Turbo oven is a conventional oven that has a fan inside that continues to blow air onto the food. This oven is known to cook at lower temperature than a regular oven, yet cook more quickly. Similarly, in a heated room without an outside source of airflow, very hot air is constantly pushed directly to your body, which is a far more effective way of raising your body temperature rather than “baking” in hot air. If you get enough of this, you would die – of hyperthermia, or abnormally high body temperature.

So Korean people had it right after all – fans can kill. They just tend to give the wrong reason.

Common objection to this explanation is: in such an oppressive heat, the person would have died from hyperthermia anyway, with or without the fan. This objection underestimates the effectiveness of the fan raising the body temperature.

Humans maintain body temperature by developing a thin layer of air around their body that is similar to their body temperature. Because air is a poor conductor of heat, the layer of air around the body adapt very slowly to the temperature of the surrounding air, maintaining steady temperature.

This fact can be proven in several ways. Cold days with strong wind feel much colder than cold days without any wind, because the wind takes away the air layer around the body. Dressing in layers is more effective to keeping warm than dressing in a single thick outerwear. You can do fine wearing only a T-shirt and jeans in 70 degree Fahrenheit air, but you would get really cold wearing T-shirt and jeans in 70 degree Fahrenheit water, because water is a much better conductor of heat. To prevent losing heat, divers wear a wetsuit, which limits the amount of water touching the body, essentially creating the same thermal layer with water.

This method of temperature maintenance works the same way in heat. Although body temperature above 104 degree Fahrenheit (40 degree Celsius) is life-threatening, humans can go on living for hours in temperature much higher than that. How? Humans sweat, and when the sweat drops evaporate, the air around the body cools because of the evaporation. As long as the cool layer of air surrounds the person, the person’s body temperature remains stable.

But if the fan runs directly on the body, that layer of air is taken away, replaced by the same hot air in the room. To compensate, the body would produce more and more sweat, but the sweat would quickly evaporate without offering any protection to the body because the fan is constantly blowing hot air. At some point, the body would run out of water to produce sweat. And starting from this point, the body temperature would rise dramatically.

How dramatic? Turbo ovens can cook the same amount of food at the cooking temperature that is about 50 degree Fahrenheit (30 degree Celsius) lower than a conventional oven. Once the human body loses the ability to regulate heat, it is just like a piece of meat in a turbo oven. Keep in mind that Korea’s summertime routinely hits 90 degree Fahrenheit (around 31 degree Celsius). This means that although the room’s air temperature is 90 degree Fahrenheit, with a fan on, your body is cooking at the same rate as being in a room with 140 degree Fahrenheit (61 degree Celsius). Needless to say, this would kill you – especially so if you do not have a body that controls temperature well, i.e. drunks, children, or elderly.

Don’t believe the Korean? Would you believe the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency? This pamphlet from the EPA, at pages 49 and 51, clearly states the hazard of using portable electric fans during high heat. It specifically says “Portable electric fans can … increase the circulation of hot air, which increases thermal stress and health risks[,]” and “DON’T use a portable electric fan in a closed room without windows or doors open to the outside.” Or how about a climatology professor who works for the National Weather Service? In an interview with NPR, Dr. Kalkstein specifically mentions the danger of fans in a hot, enclosed room. (At 13:30 mark.)

A few points to conclude the post.

1. Why are Koreans so concerned about fan death (aside from the fact that it is real)?

Answer: Why not? We are talking about death here. People around the world engage in all kinds of silliness to cheat death. For example, recently the most emailed New York Times article for a few days in a row was about the dangers of “third-hand smoking”, i.e. the health risk posed by cigarette residue remaining in the smoker’s furniture, clothes, or hair, long after the act of smoking was done.

The Korean does not want to diminish the danger of smoking, or even second-hand smoking. But the Korean’s reaction to this article was: Are these people serious? The article says nothing about whether “third-hand smoking” has a measurable effect on health – it simply says there are unhealthy particles, and people don’t know about them. But bad particles are everywhere, with or without previous smoking! How can the article be convincing without talking about some measure of how much bad particles one could ingest through third-hand smoking? Yet the Korean will guarantee that sooner or later, the term “third-hand smoking” will be used by a concerned legislator as she pushes to make more public places non-smoking.

2. Does getting the cause for Fan Death wrong mean Koreans live without critical thinking?

Answer: Of course not. Fan Death is a miniscule part of Korean people’s lives. All they need to do to prevent it is to open the window or press a button. Simply put, Fan Death is not something Korean people think much about.

For a similar example, to this day, there is no scientific consensus about the health benefits of drinking red wine. In fact, the idea that drinking alcohol helps your health is utterly counterintuitive. Yet when Americans say red wine is good for your health, other Americans simply nod in agreement and move on. It is not a point worth debating. Drinking red wine over, say, beer, does not take much effort. And if there is health benefit to it, true or not, it’s simply a bonus.

The same with Fan Death. Unlike the health benefits of red wine, Fan Death is real. And if all it takes to prevent it is as minor as pressing a button, why bother thinking hard about it? Koreans have no urgent reason to debate what the precise cause of Fan Death is.

3. The Korean would place the blame on the misunderstanding about the cause of Fan Death to the Korean media. Korean media has been careless reporting cases of Fan Death. Recently, Korean media itself is realizing this point. According to a Dong-A Ilbo article, there simply has been no scientific effort to prove Fan Death, even in cases where the fan was supposed to be responsible. There have been no papers on this topic, and no autopsy performed on the person who supposedly died from Fan Death.

The Korean will reiterate: Fan Death is real. The causal mechanism is causing death is very clear, and it is very plausible that such causation occurs in Korea. However, the Korean will say this: Most likely, not all cases of Fan Death reported in Korean media are truly Fan Death.

Got a question or a comment for the Korean? Email away at askakorean@hotmail.com.

60 COMMENTS:

Bekah said...

Wow, this is very enlightening and totally understandable. At first I admit I was thinking death by fan was pretty out there, but after thinking about it and the points you made, I'm convinced.

How long did it take you to find all this information?

Nathan Schwartzman said...

Using fan death as an example of Koreans' lack of critical thinking was always questionable anyway. Every society everywhere believes something stupid.

Dan said...

This is going to be a very popular post. I commend you on a very logical, well-thought-out post. I have to admit that I won't approach the subject with as much ridicule as I once did (though still some).

You really created a plausible explanation for fan death. That's all I've ever asked for. The convection oven example is beautiful. Additionally, your acknowledgment and rationalization of the minuscule odds makes it a difficult argument to counter. Of course, in doing so, you've really re-defined fan death, as previous definitions offered (anywhere as far as I can tell) have not put forth the same rationale. With that in mind, I might say that you didn't justify the existence of fan death, but rather high temperature, closed, circulatory air flow environments death :)

Your description of how turbo fans work is a little off as well. They don't work by blowing hot air on the food (or people in this case); they work by circulating air and creating even heat in the oven (room). This could also work in your rationale's favor as many Koreans sleep close to the floor where the air is cooler. Circulating air would increase the temperature of the air close to the ground.

It's been a while since I broached the subject with Koreans. I eventually realized, as you mentioned, that it was simply a non-issue and therefore why bother with it. However, it's still an excellent topic for critical analysis if one has students who are capable of addressing it. Your piece is a great balance to the reams of anti-fan death pieces.

Dan

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Arctic Penguin said...

I find this very interesting, but given the size of the at-risk population, namely people drinking, and the apparently huge number of foreign commentators who recreate this very situation in order to mock it (having myself survived, many times over, such conditions, whilst slumbering in a drunken stupor) why aren't there more cases? I do recall reading an article in either the Herald or the Times (of Korea) which stated that (in the author's opinion, who was Korean himself) he worried that fan death was used to ignore things like aneurysms, heart failure, and other more common health-related causes of death which deserve (in the author's opinion) greater attention than fan death as popularly conceptualized. I wonder if the people here (this postmodern world makes it so difficult to retain any credibility or accuracy whatsoever with such a vague and ambitious catchall word like 'Koreans') are themselves divided about the meaning of fan death: a Korean friend of approximately my age said in her opinion/experience, fan death was a euphemism used by both family and the media in order to cover up a more shameful sort of death, like suicide or liver failure (as related to alcohol poisoning). But I'm glad you took the time to explain the process in a more step-by-step fashion.. and while I'm not thoroughly convinced just yet, you certainly give more substance to mull over than the average translated article. Oh, and about the wine thing: I've read numerous studies about the benefits of red wine, but there's a catch: the benefit is from a certain chemical particular to red grapes, hence the benefit which wine gives is also available in grapes. I think people have simply extended this to wine since those chemicals are found there as well but wine is more fun to consume than grapes. And I wish I could name the chemical off the top of my head, just to give this thought greater credence, but it has been a while since I read one of those articles. I imagine I can find it somewhere in the NYT "Well" blog.
(Previous post was deleted due to a grammatical error.)

Arctic Penguin said...

Just for those who are interested: the following article discusses reservatrol, a chemical found in the skin of red grapes which is the focus of studies examining the health benefits of red wine/grapes.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/12/971219062019.htm

White Rice said...

Dig it the most.
It seems the biggest challenge you faced was keeping an open mind long enough to find evidence of plausibility. No?

Chris in South Korea said...

I must say I love your blog, and this post gives quite a bit of information about the issue. Thanks for your well-thought-out argument and excellent research.

My only concern is to have Koreans in general make the 'we told you so' argument, then extend that to anything that's been controversial. 'We were right about fan death, we're right about this too', and so on. Perhaps by next summer the issue will become more known about and less of a issue as a result.

Has Mythbusters done a show on this yet? It would be a fun show to watch - I can just imagine using their jello-like man to show how he cooks in the very hot room...

Roboseyo said...

oops. this comment was supposed to be here, not on the other page.

roboseyo wishes to salute the Korean's brave stance for truth about fan death, and wonders why Koreans were so upset about mad-cow beef, when the much more serious dangers of cigarettes and electric fans were being exported from america to Korea by the boatload.

for more reading on ANOTHER kind of fan death...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selena#Death

Gomushin Girl said...

you need to revisit the section in the EPA guidebook, which states that this is only in cases of extreme heat, which the EPA defined in the same section as exceeding 99F (just over 37C) which is within 3C of the highest temperature ever recorded in Korea (40C in Daegu way back in 1942). Not only that, it would have to reach this temperature INDOORS and the people at risk would have to become dehydrated to a substantive degree. In essence, this is something *possible* but so unlikely and requiring such particular circumstances that I'm essentially calling this explanation for fan death in Korea busted. I'm fully ready to believe that "fan death" covers lazy postmortem exams and causes of death that families don't want publicized, but not the turbo oven in my one room explanation.

The James said...

Yeah, I gotta say that in terms of scientific "evidence," it is greatly lacking. There are too many variables and highly unlikely situations to account for. Like Gomushin Girl essentially says, it would have to be the perfectly wrong conditions. Not only that, but the person would have to be unconscious because animals wake up when the environment goes beyond a certain comfort zone.

You're definitely perpetuating a poorly supported myth similar to, "don't drink water while you eat." Which is bogus as well.

jawick said...

It seems like this is a great way to kill someone and get away with it in South Korea. Suffocate them in an enclosed room and turn on a fan before leaving. I wonder just how many fan deaths are really murders in disguise?

Oh, yeah. Wrapping the cord around the neck is also fan death, but you might actually get an officer who takes their job seriously with that one.

John from Daejeon

the Korean said...

Bekah,

Can't really say -- the information has been accumulating for a few months, intermittently.

Dan,

Thanks for the correction on the turbo oven.

Chris in SK,

As far as I know, Mythbusters did not do a show about this yet. Not for the lack of submission though -- apparently there are more than 430 requests for fan death.

Gomushin Girl,

You are referring to p. 37 of the pamphlet, but you misread it.

First, according to the EPA, Excessive Heat Event (EHE) cannot be defined by a set number. Because of regional differences in weather pattern, dynamic definition of EHE is necessary. Pp. 9-10 of the pamphlet describes this necessity.

The necessity for a dynamic definition is also demonstrated in the chart on p. 15, describing EHE-attributable mortality rate in the U.S. Although Phoenix, AZ is on average significantly hotter than Providence, RI, EHE-attributable mortality rate at Phoenix is zero, while the same number at Providence is 4.14.

Second, the language you cite at p. 37 does not talk about air temperature of 99 F -- it talks about heat index temperatures of 99 F. Heat index temperature is a combination of air temperature AND humidity.

Heat index values are shown on a table on p. 16. Heat index of 99F can occur when the air temperature being 90F and humidity at 60 percent. This is easily achievable during summer in Korea. At 95F air temperature, only 40 percent humidity is required to have the heat index of 98F. Conversely, at 85F air temperature, 80 percent humidity (again, very achievable during summer in Korea) can produce heat index of 96.

Because of this, the pamphlet states is advice clearly at p. 51 - "DON'T direct the flow of portable electric fans toward yourself when room temperature is hotter than 90F."

the Korean said...

One thing that the Korean did not discuss in the post is -- as much as Koreans stick to the idea of Fan Death, expats in Korea stick to the idea of disproving Fan Death. It seems that Fan Death has achieved the status of the weird kid at school: all the cool kids make fun of him, so we all must stick to mocking him, regardless of reason.

Here, the Korean presented a perfectly scientific explanation for Fan Death. The Korean also clearly stated that most likely, not all cases of reported Fan Death are actually Fan Death. But in trying to dispute this, the people who regard themselves as logical and scientific for disputing Fan Death offer illogical and unscientific counterpoints.

Case in point: The James's idea that because the event is so unlikely that it must be false. That idea is utterly illogical.

First, Fan Death in Korea is a rare and unlikely event. Even including the "false positives" reported in the media, Fan Death is not reported any more than once or twice every summer.

On the other hand, the preconditions leading up to Fan Death are completely likely. Korean weather can easily produce excessive heat events; many homes use only electric fans without an air conditioner; because of various pests during summer (esp. mosquitos,) Koreans often keep their room windows shut. On top of that, Koreans are prodigious drinkers, which leads to dehydration (thus reaching the point of body temperature non-regulation faster) and passing out (which enables staying asleep while hyperthermia progresses.)

Like the Korean said in the post, he was a skeptic of Fan Death as well. But the Korean has this base belief: if a mass of people believe in something, something is either true to a certain degree, or people do so for a good reason (i.e. not "stupidity").

Therefore, once the Korean found a scientifically plausible explanation for Fan Death, and realized that each precondition leading up to Fan Death is not only likely in Korea but also consistent with what Korean people believe, the Korean was ready to believe that Fan Death is real.

At this point, the only possible way to deny the existence of Fan Death is this: because there has not been a controlled study on the topic, I am not ready to believe it. If that's your stance, the Korean has no problem with that -- more power to you. The Korean will note that much of what we take to be true is based not on controlled study, but on plausible inferences. (e.g. global warming.)

The James said...

I understand what you're saying, and as a research biologist I apologize if it seemed that I claimed it as false. My point is simply that "Fan Death" is so highly improbable that people shouldn't ever be concerned by it. It still does require the perfectly wrong conditions.

Statistically vending machines kill more people every year, but we don't avoid them. You're chances of slipping in the shower are exponentially higher than "Fan Death."

I personally find these types of articles annoying because there are many many more common things in this world that pose a greater threat. To give this kind of topic this much attention is just weird. I think it bothers me on another level because my parents wouldn't let me sleep with a fan on either.

the Korean said...

TJ,

The Korean can get behind that sentiment. For a similar example, people are afraid of shark attacks to a disproportionate degree of the actual danger -- falling coconuts are known to cause more deaths and injuries than sharks per year.

The Korean only devotes the effort to explaining Fan Death because of the countervailing effort -- that is, the visceral and total denial of the existence of Fan Death, and the nonstop attempt at mocking Koreans for believing in Fan Death. Sure, Fan Death is an unlikely event, and overall it is a little silly to be preoccupied by it. But Fan Death does exist, and Koreans are no stupider than any other people for believing in it. That's all the Korean wanted to show through this post.

3/Diddy said...

Hey there,

donghun here. Thanks for the post. Glad to know finally an answer.
Truly expat bashing/making fun of over events like "Fan Death" is truly poor, remember every nation has its own kind of fan death event which is for foreigners strange.

JW said...

하~늘~천~따~지...I learn the ABCs of Korea from you theKorean. I *could* go read a good book on Korea, but that's far too much work and much less entertaining.

Thank you.

Feisty said...

This is a very interesting post, I think my favorite you've had.


I think your expert testimony you have provided is very persuasive, and I'm inclined to believe that there is a danger to fans in extremely hot enclosed rooms. However, as far as your actual explanation of the phenomenon, I think you have made a pair of unwarranted assumptions/logical errors. They may be true but I don't think you've proven them adequately:

1) The warm layer of air around the body in cold temperatures is the same method of temperature maintenance in heat, and with this layer broken up by a fan, sweating would evaporate quickly without offering any protection.

You don't provide any cite for that other than assuming that because it works for cold temperatures, it must work the same for hot, but that is not obvious to me. Furthermore, while that may be a component of the cooling effect of sweating if true, evaporative cooling causes an actual decrease in the temperature of the fluid, and while your sweat may cool the air around you, it will also cool the body directly.

2) Because turbo ovens can cook at temperatures 50 degrees lower, that must mean fans can increase any temperature by 50 degrees.
I am unconvinced that the turbo oven effect can create any such effect to that magnitude at room temperature. Is there reason to believe the 50 degree increase is not proportional to the high temperatures already inside an oven? So would using a fan in a 70 degree room be equally dangerous to sitting for a prolonged period in a 120 degree room?

Kim김 said...

I recall hearing about this some time ago. The name "Fan Death" probably doesn't help. It sounds cartoon-ish. Great job with the research and explaining.

The Clam said...

I linked this article to my "ESL Teachers in Korea" facebook group, so perhaps The Korean can continue trying to prove Fan Death's validity.

The James said...

I get where you're coming from now. When I read the article though it sounds like you support the idea that people should fear "fan death." It feels like you're legitimizing its dangers.

Koreans aren't any dumber than other cultures for believing that this is a real threat, but that doesn't mean they aren't dumb for believing it. It's just that everyone else is just as dumb, and that's okay.

ed said...

Ah, one of my favorite parts of Korea...Fan Death! Seriously, thanks for the great article. Let's not forget that many Western cultures also have weird myths and unjustified fears that are constantly propagated despite scientific evidence to the contrary (many urban legends or religious prohibitions, for instance). Although none are probably as quite colorful as Fan Death.

Fan Death. I've always thought it would be an awesome name for a heavy metal band.

the Korean said...

Feisty,

Both are valid points. Allow the Korean to respond:

1. About sweating -- You make two points about sweating: (1) "thermal layer" may exist in cold situation, but not in hot situation; (2)sweating directly lowers the body heat.

To the first point, the Korean does not know what to say. "Cold" and "hot" are merely two different degrees of temperature. The fundamental physics of heat conduction by air does not change with temperature.

As to the second point, the Korean agrees that sweating would directly lower body heat, but that ultimately does not affect the analysis. Body temperature would rise up dramatically after the body can no longer produce sweat, through dehydration. It is possible that the body temperature would dip as long as the fan blows the sweat dry, but once that stops, the body temperature would rise, causing hyperthermia.

2. About the "turbo oven" effect -- your objection is a good one. But even if a fan in the room does not, in effect, raise the temperature by 50F, the Korean thinks the analysis is unaffected. Body temperature of 104F is fatal, and 104F is not a long way to go from 90F-plus room temperature.

The Korean will concede that a controlled experiment would be necessary to definitively prove Fan Death to be true. But the Korean believes that the hyperthermia theory is correct because (1) the causal mechanism is clear; (2) the preconditions leading up to Fan Death is, while unlikely, perfectly plausible, and; (3) the preconditions leading up to Fan Death is identical to what Korean people perceive as dangerous, and also consistent with Korean media report as Fan Death.

lastclasshero said...

hmm..actually, i have ever used a fan in an enclosed room for about maybe 1hr..and yes it got stuffy but no i did not die. But the stuffiness irritated me so i switched it on the aircon with the fan.

So, switching on the fan and aircon in an enclosed room is okay, no?

Gomushin Girl said...

thanks for clarifying the math behind EHE math . . .
but I did not misread the section - unlike you I don't seem to have the leisure to plow through the entire EPA manual. And again, the problem is that the theoretical possibility is still so incredibly unlikely that it is essentially nil AND more importantly for your claim that fan death is real is that there is apparently not a single actual death attributed to this problem. Fan Death is, at best, a real possibility, but that does not equal reality.
The problem returns again to the fact that the basis for the claims of fan death that foreigners in Korea find so ludicrous are, in fact, still ludicrous.

Arctic Penguin said...

"Among the substances in third-hand smoke are hydrogen cyanide, used in chemical weapons; butane, which is used in lighter fluid; toluene, found in paint thinners; arsenic; lead; carbon monoxide; and even polonium-210, the highly radioactive carcinogen that was used to murder former Russian spy Alexander V. Litvinenko in 2006. Eleven of the compounds are highly carcinogenic." From the NYT article about 'third-hand smoke.' It seems that there are casual elements directly addressed in this article, such that the mechanics which might give rise to a health concern are clearly illustrated. In that way I don't believe it's accurate to draw any parallel between the NYT article and fan death (nor accurate to call the belief in benefits of drinking red wine a myth, being as it has been demonstrated by numerous independent laboratories according to the scientific method. Which begs the question, why has no laboratory in Korea taken this on?)

Might it not be beneficial to forget about 'fan death' and talk directly about the mechanism, i.e., hyperthermia and conditions which predispose an individual to hyperthermia? It seems the press would retain a great deal more credibility if they addressed the issue as such, and by doing so informed their readers as to the mechanics of the situation. It would go a long way to benefit both Koreans' understanding of commonplace myths (not that fans kill, but rather contribute to a situation which also might arise is circumstances not involving a fan, say simple dehydration or sun exposure) and also help to diminish the language/culture gap experienced by foreigners living in or visiting Korea as well as provide a better basis upon which such questions might be answered. And plenty of people ave their superstitions and scientific misattributions, but no one in this day and age is expected to take seriously, say, someone who cites an encounter with a black cat for the loss of their job or relationship though such people still exist (thankfully as a minority).

Arctic Penguin said...

Especially since Korea as a country seems to value science so highly, at least as an area of academic expertise. I would expect such a thing to have a clear cultural impact as well, seeing as how the most superstitious people I know personally, or those who erroneously attribute casual components, or those who most confidently create 'backronyms,' or who most enthusiastically support conspiracy theories are those who have the least amount of formal training in whatever field their enthusiasm takes hold of. In my mind, the grievance is common: intellectual dishonesty born out of ignorance or a lack of curiosity as to ascertaining the true causes of a situation. And that perhaps is the real crime of perpetuating urban myths, whether it's fan death (as separated from the hyperthermia you've discussed, which does have other sources as well and is itself a source of great concern during hot months, particularly to the young and elderly) or bad luck and broken mirrors. Or, to give a nod to the fool about to depart a high national office, receiving military intelligence during prayer.

But being human, I suppose no culture will ever get past this sort of thing, seeing as how people who so delightfully misattribute causes seem to get a warm and fuzzy feeling of nostalgia and certainty from repeating whatever the hell it was their grandparent told them when they were young.

sonagi92 said...

I noticed that you linked to my MH post about fan death reports in the Korean media yet missed the post about the climatology professor's visit to Seoul, from which you obtained the links to his university webpage and NPR story.

the Korean said...

arctic,

Sure, the laundry list of toxins is intimidating, but how much toxin are we talking about? In the age of polluted air and polluted water, everything we take in has toxins to some degree. Just how much toxins does third-hand smoking provide? NYT article is silent on that.

The Korean agrees with your other points, except this part: "...help to diminish the language/culture gap experienced by foreigners living in or visiting Korea..." The Korean does not think the Korean media owes any duty to explain Korea to foreigners. If foreigners do not keep an open mind and accept different possibilities, however outlandish they may sound, it's their problem.

Sonagi,

The Korean sincerely apologizes. The point in the post about ridiculing Korea was not meant to be directed to you or Robert -- it was directed to the commenters of the posts in MH. The Korean should have been clearer. Also, HT should have been made as to the NPR story -- although the Korean would note that he is the one who provided the initial info leading to the post about Dr. Kalkstein. At any rate, sorry about that.

Arctic Penguin said...

Korean,

I apologize for not phrasing that statement very well. What I meant to convey was the sentiment that the popular media (including such publications as the NY Times, which oscillates between very informative and utterly propagandist, compare Olivia Judson's evolution blog to Tara Parker-Pope's Well blog) has a responsibility to inform the public responsibly. I simply see the fan death phenomenon as an outgrowth of irresponsible reporting, and perhaps the third hand smoke is an an example of this as well. The American media serves the purpose (or should, and does on its better days, and on its lesser days simply invigorates and justifies negative stereotypes about Americans, see Fox News) of not only informing the American public but informing the rest of the world as well though a well-informed public. I'm just for better information all around, where native media uplifts and clarifies the understanding of the public they serve, thereby enabling that public to bring its case, culture, and ethos to the world with a minimum of misunderstanding. There's a critical absence of science in media generally, but why avoid criticism simply because all involved have failings? Isn't it more profitable to be self-critical but additionally question the assumptions of others as well? I sure hope that some kid in Korea gets into geology and looks at the percentage of people in the US who believe in "young Earth" creationism and thinks to himself, "WTF?" Every country and culture needs a critical eye, and it's difficult to be more objective being from the culture or country in question. Sometimes the act of trying to explain or justify one's beliefs to another who has been raised without the same beliefs is a window to self-reflection. That's all. And yes, I do think that in some respect we're all cultural emissaries who bear a responsibility similar to the one which here I've ascribed to the media. I've done my best to explain zillions of questions from people I've met here about America, whether they're Korean or Scottish. I do think we've all got to do our part. I mean, why do you think this blog is so popular? People have lots of questions and lots of opinions. And until we communicate these things in a forum like this, people unaccustomed to 'fan death' mock it, and those who've never thought twice about it continue to say things like "well, fans destroy oxygen." (Which is in fact something I was told. I think something was lost in translation. I hope.) Sorry for the verbosity.

andrew said...

i may be missing something here, so if i am i apologize, but how often does the heat index really get that high at night? it seems to me that it would be an extremely rare occurence, if ever, that it climbs that high between the hours of, say, 9pm and 9am. further it seems like as the index falls during this period, it should gradually relieve the stress on the body and allow increasingly normalized perspiration. again, i'm going to admit my ignorance here and that the korean and many of the people commenting seem to know more about the subject than i do, so really this is more of a question than a challenge.

the Korean said...

andrew,

The heat index of upper 90s happens fairly regularly, especially in the southern regions of Korea.

Here is the pdf of the meteorological data of Korea in 2007: Link

Flip to p. 108 to see the info from Daegu, one of the hottest cities in Korea. The mean relative humidity during July and August was around 72~73 percent -- and the Korean knows for a fact that 80 percent humidity occurs quite frequent in that city, although the report does not list the highest humidity. (Because obviously, the highest humidity is at 100 percent, when it's raining.)

The air temperature is revealing. From May through September, there were at least one day in each month that were 90.6F, 91.4F, 95.9F, 97.5F, and 91.4F. (Converting from Celsius.) Also in August, the mean highest temperature of the day for all 31 days was at 89.6F.

At the air temperature of 90F, the heat index is 105F if there is 70% humidity, and 113F if there is 80% humidity. So the heat index in Daegu averaged around 105F in August, occasionally spiking up to 113F and beyond. And at least one day in August, the heat index was over 130F, assuming 70% humidity.

But you are correct -- these heat indices should come down at night. However, the main component of Fan Death is an enclosed room. If there is no cooler outside air introduced into the room in which the heat index was at 130F, it is completely possible that the room remained over 99F heat index through the course of the night.

Seth said...

It seems to me that "Fan Death", as it is used in the Korean media, and death by very high temperatures in enclosed spaces, which is widely recognized, should be seperate and distinct. A fan might be some contributing factor, but let's face the fact that it's heat death, not fan death.

the Korean said...

Seth,

The Korean would note that the term "Fan Death" is not a Korean term; it is a term that English-speaking Korean observers made up to describe Korean people's general belief about fan being a contributing factor to death caused by hyperthermia.

In fact, Korean people's belief is quite specific. They always speak of high heat, enclosed space, and the fan directly running on the body all night for death to occur. Non-Koreans hearing this concept fixate on the fan part, but Koreans themselves know better.

andrew said...

okay thanks for the explanation. personally, i don't really have any particular vested interest in the veracity of fan death or lack there of, i just find it intriguing. and, your explanation seems quite reasonable. i do have just one more thing to say about your last comment, though, and that's that i one day got to talking about 'fan death' with one of the other teachers at my middle school, who was horrified to learn that i slept with the fan on nearly every night of the year. she asked why i would ever need to sleep with a fan on when i had air-conditioning in my apartment. i explained that it was simply habit and i found the white noise comforting and also concealing, since my 19 year-old live-alone neighbor enjoyed singing 'ballads' as he bathed at 5:30am nearly every morning. i then asked her under what circumstances it would be acceptable to sleep with a fan on, at which point she replied 'with the window open'. i pointed out the unlikeliness of that occurring since it was, at the time, around late november or early december, and she then reasoned that no one needs to sleep with a fan on in the winter and i had better not expose myself to such dangerous circumstances for the sake of comfort. i reminded her about the singing, and she said we should find another solution. the next day i arrived at school to find a pair of foam ear plugs on my desk. apparently word quickly spread because over the next few days i was cautioned by several other teachers, with one asking me how my parents could have 'never taught me about that'.

O said...

hahaha - you've reduced me to tears. This was so funny - if only my grandma could read english...

Peter said...

What I don't agree with is that your basing your assumptions on a lot of ifs. Generally, the human body is well adept at adjusting and maintaining homeostasis even in extreme temperatures. So is it possible that if your in a small enough room, with the windows closed, with it being 90 C, with the fan positioned in such a way that it blows on the entire/majority of body's surface area (meaning likely you will not have any night wear on), with a large enough fan in comparison to room and person, and if they stay in that room long enough, and if they dehydrate without drinking additional water at night. Additionally, a turbo oven is based on multiple fans that circulate air uniformly for such a small volume. Most people utilize one. If your sleeping on a bed or even the floor, half of your body is also transferring heat away and not being exposed to the hot air.

My point is that almost everything is possible in science if you manipulate the conditions correctly. But what is the probability here? If your entire point is rationalizing that Koreans have some sort of scientific justification behind their illogical beliefs, then your point is grasping for straws at best. To clarify, my point on being illogical was that for the number of possible cases of fan deaths that occur in equation with the fear involved does not match.

At the end of the day, every country has dumb illogical beliefs that stemmed from urban folklore or very rare instances. But they accept it as that, no need to justify that. In fact, it only further perpetuates the stupidity and pride involved in rationalizing the irrational.

a said...

Your explanation of the physics of "sweating" is flawed:

"...and when the sweat drops evaporate, the air around the body cools because of the evaporation. As long as the cool layer of air surrounds the person, the person’s body temperature remains stable."

In actuality, the skin that is "wet" experiences cooling because of the phase change from liquid->gas of the sweat (easier to draw heat energy from the skin than the air around it). In a room w/ humidity <100%, a fan circulating air would contribute to additional cooling (not heating), since the air immediately around the body that is of a higher humidity because of the evaporation would be replaced by less humid air, improving the rate of evaporation. This circulation of air would continue to aid in cooling until the entire room was at 100% humidity.

the Korean said...

a,

Or until the person runs out of sweat through dehydration.

The point is that because of the fan, the sleeping person must constantly generate sweat, accelerating the dehydration. If there was no fan, the person would develop a layer of cool air around his body through the evaporated sweat, and dehydration would be prevented.


Peter,

Koreans do have a scientific justification in being worried about Fan Death. The Korean showed that scientifically, Fan Death is real. The Korean also showed that each element necessary for Fan Death is present in Korea -- therefore, at least some of the reported cases of Fan Death in Korea are really, truly Fan Deaths. The Korean even put a caveat that there may be cases of false positives.

The Korean thinks that your point is that Koreans do not have the statistical justification in being concerned about Fan Death, because Fan Death is a rare event. Well, go back and read the post again. The Korean explicitly said Fan Death indeed is a rare event. The Korean also explicitly said that Koreans only ponder about Fan Death about as much as Americans ponder about the health benefits of red wine. In other words, Korean people's concern over Fan Death is perfectly proportional to the statistical danger of Fan Death. There is nothing irrational about what Koreans do. After all, even though the chance is miniscule, when that miniscule chance occasion does happen, the result is death -- why not avoid it when all one has to do is to press a button?

Put differently, when: (1) all the preconditions for a rare event is present; (2) the consequence of that rare event will be severely negative; and (3) the amount of effort to be taken to negate some or all of the preconditions is minimal, the rational thing to do is take the steps to negate those preconditions, not to ignore the potential harm based on generalized statistics.Here is an example. Lightning strike is a rare event, but the consequences of a lightning striking on you could be devastating. We all know the preconditions of a lightning strike -- thunderstorm, being near metal, being the highest point of the ground, etc. It is of course silly to worry about a lightning strike on a sunny day. But is it rational to be out on a flat land, holding a tall umbrella with a metal shaft, in the middle of a thunderstorm, because lightning strike is a rare event? Of course not. Lightning strike is real. Once you are hit by a lightning, you will be severely injured or dead. Same with Fan Death. Fan Death is all real. It could possibly kill you. Then why not avoid it, when the steps taken to avoid it is minimal?

a said...

Thank you for replying to the comment. Unfortunately the claim you repeated below is still incorrect:

"If there was no fan, the person would develop a layer of cool air around his body through the evaporated sweat, and dehydration would be prevented."

1) No layer of cool air is created by sweating. Sweating cools the SKIN via evaporative cooling, not the air. You even mention yourself that air is a poor conductor of heat and you are exactly right. This is why heat is extracted from the skin vs the air. You are confused because in the winter, the body EMITS heat energy which does indeed create the thin layer you spoke of. Unfortunately, in a hot room, humans do not "emit" cold. In order to get any layer of "cold" you would need a huge temperature differential between the body and the surrounding air (e.g. the body is 5* C and the air is 60*C). In reality, the hottest days on earth are still way too close to normal body temperature to consider anything like this. (This is also why your turbo oven analogy does not apply to humans in a room)

2) What DOES occur in a thin layer around the body (in our summer time example) is a region of high-humidity air. This high-humidity air layer is directly caused by the evaporation that is cooling the body. By using a fan, we can blow this "saturated" air away and bring in "dryer" air that allows faster evaporation and in turn better cooling of the body.

All the confusion may be tied to a misunderstanding of how house fans work. Many people mistakenly believe that fans blow cold air at them, which is not how fans work at all. It is all about humidity and circulating air. The worst part is that you've laid out your argument in a way that would seem logical to people who aren't familiar with the sciences of heat and energy and will inevitably spread these false misconceptions because "it sounds scientific".

Van said...

I can't stop laughing. The Korean, you had an awesome argument at the beginning, but now, it has fallen apart :(. What's lacking is true-life scenarios that can support an answer.

The answer is short and simple!!! Fan death is association, not causation. Here is my rationale.

Just think back to the heat waves in France a few years ago, a country where most homes are not equipped with a/c, only heaters ( I lived there for a summer). Energy price is insane, another reason to not own an a/c unit. As a result, old people were dying left-and-right because they thought a fan would be enough in keeping them cool. However, we know that fans do not lower the temperature, rather it circulates air, which accelerate sweating as evaporation is being accelerated and old sweat is being replaced with new sweat, cooling the body, which dehydrates you even faster. You're right on that point. However, it is not the causation.

Regardless of a fan, your body is losing so much water, and once it gets below it's functional level, it goes into shock, and you faint or collapse from exhaustion and dehydration. For young people, that's a hard thing to do, as their body is more resilient and easily can detect that it needs more water asap, i.e. you become really thirsty. Even when you're asleep, if it's too hot and you're sweating like crazy, you automatically wake up to get water or to turn on the a/c. However, with seniors and possibly with alcoholics, they're more susceptible to dehydration, as their body has lost the ability to alarm itself to replenish the water it has lost, especially drunks. Hangovers are linked to dehydration, and also, drunks tend to have the ability to lose bodily functions, i.e. them peeing on themselves. lol. As a result of dehydration, the body can go into shock or have organ failures, leading to death if no emergency response is taken, like an iv with fluids and electrolytes.

If you ever ran a marathon and collapsed because of dehydration and became delusional, you realize how deadly dehydration can be.

In addition, many elders lack the mobility or mental capacity to leave their homes. On top of that, you have the grandpas/mas who are stubborn and believe they can handle the heatwave at home without a/c, but with their fan. Sadly, some do not make it through.

It's easy to associate the fan as being the culprit if you arrive on the scene to find it blowing full-blast onto a corpse on the rocking chair. (Spooookyyyyy image!!!)

All in all, it is poor judgment or physical or mental incapacity to leave the house for a place with a/c that proves to be the killer, not a fan, as we all are capable of getting up in the middle of the night to lower or raise the thermostat or to reach for that cold glass of water in the fridge or extra blankets in the closet. Only those who are incapable of doing so are likely to be the victims of fan death. lol. :)

Tell me if I'm right or a genius :D lol.

the Korean said...

Van,

The Korean's point is that the presence of a fan accelerates dehydration by a lot, making death more likely. So no, a fan is simply not an association -- it is a contributing factor.

Mr.Arnold said...

Hi All~!
Thanks to many of you for really thinking and researching information before posting. I had seen www.fandeath.net years before, but this post is much more informative!

Let's start with the assumption that the Korean is correct and what we are calling Fan Death is possible. Science is science and in those conditions, seems like people are in trouble.

But what about in non-perfect conditions?

I like the shark attack comparison. I'm sure all Koreans worry about being bitten by a shark, but how many completely stop entering the oceans of the world for the rest of their lives? Or, perhaps more accurately for comparison to Fan Death fear: the oceans, lakes, rivers and pools of the world?

The problem with the Korean belief in Fan Death is their insistence on turning off fans in all kinds of conditions: windows open, warm or cool days, low humidity, etc. How many of us living here have had someone either turn off our fans or made comments about them being on while the perfect conditions for Fan Death were not all (or even none!) present. Many Koreans also have some belief in fresh air which causes them to open windows of homes, buses, cars, offices, etc in spite of the weather. How many taxis have you ridden in (pick any season) that drive with the windows 100% up? Given this seemingly Korean need to have windows open at all times, it’s strange that the number one choice in preventing Fan Death is turning off the fan and NOT opening some windows. By the science, just one open window and Fan Death is no longer a possibility.

In addition, many Koreans seem to believe the fan is capable of making air colder, the same as A/C. (Which, by the way, ruins the reasoning in how it could possibly cause Fan Death.)This belief can experienced by anyone using a fan in the fall, winter, or spring. As an experiment, invite some Korean friends over during any winter month and try hanging out and drying your laundry with a fan. Or observe as fans in Korean homes or restaurants either disappear or get bagged up once the summer is over. The western idea of using ceiling fans in winter to move warm air down is almost unknown here. Why? Because fans MAKE cold air!

Like with shark attacks and life guard warnings of sightings and non-safe times for swimming, wouldn’t it be better for Koreans to know about the perfect conditions (90+F + 70% humidity + dehydration + enclosed space) for Fan Death, yet in non-perfect conditions, enjoy the wonder of a gentle breeze from a fan? Is there an environmental-awareness opportunity here? Could educating Koreans on how often fans are useful and safe then allow them to use them more in summer and winter thereby reducing more expensive heating/cooling methods?

Regardless of the scientific possibility for a fan to be involved in a death of a human, Koreans show great misunderstanding of the basic functioning of fans in their everyday behavior thus underutilizing fans. This will always bother non-Koreans.

the Korean said...

Mr.Arnold,

Under-utilization of electric fans bother people? Seriously?

palladin said...

Ok I have to step in on the side of The Korean on this one. I happen to LIVE in Daegu and yes it does get hot enough to meet these conditions and it gets that way often. I know many older Koreans who live in small shacks that have little / no ventilation. I also know many of them (especially the older men) enjoy drinking soju during the day and often pass out.

So its perfectly possible for an older Korean man to be drunk on soju during a hot day in Daegu and pass out in his none ventilated one room shack.

And many are correct, the presence of a fan will lower the human's body temperature rather then increase it. But it does this by rapidly evaporating sweat from your body. Thus you sweat more (and become cooler), but use up water at a higher rate. For a young / conscious person this is no biggie, we just drink more water. For an older drunk korean man (or anyone in similar physical condition) who no longer possesses the ability to correct their body's problem, this can be fatal. For once the body's water reserves have run out, the fan just serves to more efficiently heat the body. And a 10 degree increase in core body temperature in a short period of time is entirely possible. In fact I'd call it probable given those conditions. This is basically heat exhaustion leading to heat stroke.

There is no emit heat / cold crap going on. Its simple thermodynamics. Thermal energy will always attempt to equalize. Moving from a higher density to a lower density unless an outside force acts on it (thermal pump). In the winter your body has higher thermal density then the air, so heat is transferred to the air directly around you forming a thermal blanket. In the summer the evaporation effect cause's the air directly around your body to be colder then the air further away. This creates the same barrier. Unfortunately it also slows down further evaporation. So while its more energy-efficient to just sit still when it's hot, its more comfortable to have air being blown across your body (increased evaporation).

Air has a high heat index but a low heat capacity. These qualities make it a great thermal insulator, regardless of direction. Cold things stay cold, hot things stay hot. As long as the barrier of air is not moved it will remain this way.

The death he is referring to is nothing more then heat stroke. Its cause is rapid over heating of the body combined with the inability of the body to control its temperature (due to dehydration).

Sung said...

I didn't read this article but I'm leaving a comment since I'm pretty convinced it could be real as well.

I came across this article because I woke up gasping for air yesterday at 4 am. I actually jumped up on top of my bed from a dead sleep. It was pretty scary and its the first time it has ever happened to me. I am Korean and I was sleeping in a room with a window cracked open with the fan on. The blinds were down so it was pretty close to being closed.

At first I thought it was sleep apnea since I have a problem with snoring. All day at work I was scared that I would experience this again tonight. So, I went online looking for some possible solutions. There wasn't much I could do for sleep apnea except support groups and long term solutions.

Then, about an hour ago, I remembered something my girlfriend mentioned about dying from keeping a fan on. I read a few articles on wikipedia and other sites and am more convinced that it may be due to the fan. Some articles cited that a constant breeze to the face can cause death from dehydration. I am pretty convinced that my snoring combined with the constant stream of air dried out my airways and caused my suffocation. I don't know if I would have necessarily died but I definitely do not want to experience that again. I am placing my comment here in hopes that maybe other people become aware of this "urban legend".

Chris said...

I couldn't agree with the Korean until he said it is a "contributing factor". That is all it is. Under the right conditions the fan can accelerate dehydration, leading to heat stroke. There is no argument there. That is a fact.

The problem is that most Korean people are ignorant to that fact. Most Korean people including my wife and many doctors. "Fan death" is so heavily ingrained in their society that it has become the cause. My wife for example tells me how it makes the air bad by mixing all the carbon dioxide, or some bs like that. She goes on to tell me about the headaches the fan can give her. She is getting headaches only because she knows she will.

The Korean said "the preconditions leading up to Fan Death is identical to what Korean people perceive as dangerous, and also consistent with Korean media report as Fan Death". I find that hard to believe, because we have all heard about the fan sucking up the oxygen, or cutting it up, or causing hypothermia. All of which are just so ridiculous I want to I want to shoot my self.

I sleep with the fan on all year round. It helps me breath in the winter.

Jeff McDonald said...

hahahahahahahahaha. This blog cracks me up. My friend would easily label the Korean as "intentionally oblivious". It is so great that the Korean has used such well researched data to support such a backwards superstition.

Michael said...

Room temperature would have to exceed 40 degrees celcius to produce any sort of "turbo oven" effect. As long as the temperature in a room (open windows or not) is below that, the fan's circulation of ambient air will in no way raise body temperature (It will actually cool you via the beautiful, alive, method of sweating).

Fan death is retarded, and so is this article's proof, but it was all made in satire (I hope) so I forgive you.

the Korean said...

Jeff, what is the Korean oblivious of?

Michael, this article is not a satire. What happens when one cannot sweat anymore due to dehydration?

A. Mayer said...

You're lamely trying to support a backwards, ignorant superstition with science, but your theory here is pure speculation.

You're cherry picking ideas and forming hypothesis, but not following them through thoroughly.

I actually wrote about 6 paragraphs here explaining, but I deleted them. It's not worth the effort. You're either being facetious or you're blindly trying to prove a silly superstition from your homeland, or you're just too stupid to understand the concepts involved.

Frankly I don't care which, but as several people have said, it's all too easy to see how a superstition like this could serve a purpose in society (covering shameful deaths), and that's the most likely reason for the myth's prevalence.

A. Mayer said...

Sorry, forgot to mention:

The comment by "a" completely blew your theory apart and explained, step by step, why you were wrong. Why did you stop replying to him? You don't want to be wrong, do you? You put a lot of effort into this theory and you're gonna defend it to the bitter end, huh?

the Korean said...

1. The Korean stopped replying to "a" because he realized what "a" says, even if taken as true for the sake of argument, does not affect the plausbility of fan death.

2. Gee, the Korean wrote six paragraphs that figured out the universal law of physics, but the dog ate the Korean's keyboard. If you are so cocksure that the Korean is wrong, prove him wrong. And do it without personal attacks, or it will be summarily deleted.

smitty said...

I agree with The Korean about fan death, but I believe he made a mistake about 100% humidity being rain. I'm pretty sure that's fog, not rain.

I've started the same type of argument in the US over the irrational fear of "MSG allergies" in regards to Chinese food. You get more MSG in Italian food but no one whines about that.

The shark attack analogy really works for me.

3/Diddy said...

Man, didn't know that my question is still being discussed. BTW that post over the Expat was great!

j said...

i cant say that i read the entire blog but regarding fan death i will say this. i was in korea for the summer in 1994 and wow was it hot and humid. i remember being inside buildings and the air conditioner was only on for about 2 - 4 hours a day during the afternoon when it was the hottest. made me think about energy consumption. korea has nuclear power so there shouldnt be a problem with lack of electricity. but think about the origins of fan death. when did koreans buy fans en masse (before widespread use of air conditioning)? was there enough electricity being produced back then? i have always thought that fan death may have been an attempt to decrease energy consumption during the brutal summer months in korea. can you imagine at least one fan per household being on all day and all night in a counrty with about 40,000,000 persons or roughly 10,000,000 homes?

the Korean said...

j,

The Korean does not know when electric fans were sold in en masse, but Korea did not lack for electricity since late 1960s. If Korean government at that time wanted to reduce electricity usage, they would have just ordered people to do so instead of playing mind games.

Brian said...

Let's say you run a fan in the middle of a hot summer in your enclosed bathroom. Does this mean that not only would you have to worry about "fan death", but that you also have to worry about "shit hitting the fan"?

Martijn said...

I must say I am sceptical of the whole fan death thing. I buy the argument that under very specific conditions fans could increase the likelihood of death, but the odds still seem pretty slim. What about the benefits of having fans around, I am sure they save a lot more lives than they cost.

And there is always the correlation causation problem; a lot of people have fans and sooner or later someone is going to die while sleeping in front of a fan.

I don't believe the shark analogy helps your cause. It demonstrates how people greatly exaggerate certain risks. Fan-death is just another great white minding its own business, occasionally in the wrong place at the wrong time.