Friday, February 20, 2009

Ask a Korean! Wiki: Pre-Figuring Mixed Children

Dear Korean,

My mom is full blooded Korean and my dad is of Irish and Canadian heritage. My girlfriend and I have been talking about having children at some point. We wonder what our future kids might look like. This is where my question for you comes from. My girlfriend is a full on red head. Bright red hair (I say orange, but that ticks her off), pale white skin, freckles... a Ginger-American.

That said, do you or any of your readers know of a couple consisting of a Korean man and a red headed woman and if so what do their kids look like? I realize that anyone's story would not be an indication of what would happen between my girlfriend and I, but I'm curious.

John

Dear John,

The Korean has no children (that he knows of), so the answer will have to come from the readers. Obviously genetics is not something we can predict, but it would be interesting to hear about the different manifestations of the mixture. The Korean's observation has been that white-Asian babies are usually born more or less with full Asian features, and their white features show later as they grow.

Readers, don't limit yourselves to white-Korean combinations. Let's hear them all.

Got a question or comment for the Korean? Email away at askakorean@hotmail.com.

31 COMMENTS:

tellos said...

Helllo,

My wife is Korean and I'm Swiss, and like anyone wondering what my kids will look like.

She hopes they will have my big eyes and big nose, and I hope they will have her little eyes and cute nose.

Here is a little search on google images.

Scroll down

http://tinyurl.com/b3eygf

tellos said...

But please don't read the comments on that forum...

sonagi92 said...

The man in question is mixed himself, half-Korean and half-white or part-white, part-First Peoples, depending on what is meant by "Canadian heritage." If he marries a white woman, his kids will look white but perhaps with traces of their Asian ancestry in their hair, eyes, or nose.

On a plane from Korea to the US, I met a middle-aged Korean woman who married a GI, settled in the US, and lived happily ever after, raising two children together. The dark-haired, dark-eyed, more Asian-looking daughter married a white man and had a daughter. Looking at the family photo, I asked the proud grandma, "Did you imagine when you were young that you would have a blond, blue-eyed granddaughter?"

"Oh, no!" she laughed.

Lisa said...

Ever seen John and Kate plus Eight? Those kids are 1/4 Korean and look more Korean than their father.

That being said... I know a woman in Korea who has 1/2 Korean kids who very much have asian eyes but still have red hair.

My cousin is also 1/4 Japanese and has red hair and freckles and few if any Japanese features.

neolimph said...

black + korean = well... Amerie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerie)
she's gorgeous

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Roboseyo said...

It depends. What is your and your mate's blood type and zodiac sign?

Wanda said...

Ah, the genetics of red hair. Skin and hair color come from the pigment melanin. There are two forms of melanin, eumelanin, which is black or brown, and pheomelanin, which is red. Red hair comes from having low levels of eumelanin and high levels of pheomelanin. Most classic, full-on gingers in fact cannot make eumelanin at all because they have two mutant copies of a gene called MC1R, which causes eumelanin production. (Remember, you have two copies of nearly every gene, so both copies of a gene have to be dysfunctional in order to get the mutant phenotype.)

So, let's assume that the gf has two mutant copies of MC1R. That means the offspring are going to get at least one mutant copy of MC1R. If the bf were full Korean, he would definitely have 2 normal copies of MC1R, and the offspring would have one normal copy and one mutant copy: dark hair, probably closer to brown than black, but definitely not red. However, the bf is half Korean and half Irish Canadian. If there is red hair in his dad's family (or even if there isn't), the copy of MC1R from the dad might be mutant. If so, he's got a 50% chance of a dark-haired child and 50% chance of a ginger.

Wanda said...

@skg046: There are different mutations that could give red hair. But I've never seen a Korean with the full ginger phenotype, the kind associated with two mutant copies of MC1R.

The Clam said...

I'm predicting that my blue eyes/blonde hair will be swallowed up by my wife's Korean genes.

As long as they have everything in the right place, I'll be happy. (I wouldn't mind them having her math skills either.)

Mama Seoul said...

There is a good chance they will have reddish hair. There are quite a few kids with one Korean or part Korean parent and one white parent on Yongsan with reddish or blondish hair. You never know.

They will be beautiful, I am sure!

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brandonsmom_02 said...

I wish I had seen this earlier...and lets see if I even do this correctly...

My husband is 1/2 korean (but honestly looks like a mexican :)) and 1/2 german and I am a mix of everything, mostly irish. While I don't have red hair, I have very pale skin and millions of freckles (a very Irish look):

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/hart104/Korean/101_0163.jpg

I think our daughter is breathtaking:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/hart104/100_0778.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/hart104/Korean/DSCF3554.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/hart104/Korean/HaydenDol.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/hart104/Korean/101_0074.jpg

As you can see she looked full-blooded korean when she was a baby, and even now I think she looks more korean than her father.

But I have honestly seen it go both ways - where at 1/4 you wouldn't even know they were korean at all....

But all of the mixed korean babies I have seen have one thing in common - they are always, always gorgeous!

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Dan said...

I love the term "ginger". Frickin cracks me up!

MandyKat said...

I see a lot of children (maybe 100 or so?) with white/black + Korean parents. In every case, the children have had dark hair, usually straight, but sometimes very curly. I've seen light colored eyes a few times (hazel but never blue). I think the eye shape usually looks Korean. I've heard that people of mixed heritage are more attractive or at least the 'ideal beauty' of the future. I think so!

MandyKat said...

I meant to write, "I see a lot of mixed children because of my job" (versus simply out on the street)

achoo! said...

I'm the full blooded Korean father; she's the pale, freckled Irish-Scot pale skin, auburn-haired mother. The asian black eyes and hair are proving out their dominant gene traits with our four kids. the 8 and 6 year olds both have brown eyes and and black hair. the 4 yo has brownish, tending to black hair with grey/greenish eyes and the 2 yo has black hair and brown eyes. All of them have my olive skin coloring. They've all got the classic Asian-American almond eyes (with natural creased lids) and my flat nose and high cheeks have been subdued by my wife's facial characteristics. I'm 6' and it looks like at least two of the boys are on track for at least that, while the other two will probably be under 6' (girl included). All in all, they're the typical georgeous mixed asian/anglo look.

kyrie said...

I'm half Korean, half white, my husband is blonde haired and blue eyed. Our eldest daughter is very fair, blonde, and blue eyed (though she was born with one brown eye and one blue). Our second daughter has warm brown skin, brown-gold hair, and brown eyes. Neither of them look Asian, really, although I think they both have my dad's Korean nose! We are expecting our third daughter in April and we're all curious to see what she'll look like. :)

santoki said...

my half brother and half sister (same dad, different moms) are half korean and half swiss. their mom was fair and had blonde hair, while my dad had olive-toned skin and dark brownish-black hair. i agree with AAK when he says that they look more asian when they're kids and their white features come out more as they're older, as was such the case for my siblings. both of them have relatively fair skin and dark hair. i would compare my brothers looks and coloring to keanu reeves.

Paul said...

I have a friend who is 3/4 Korean. She was born with blond hair and everything like her mom who is half korean and half white. Then hair changed black and she looks like a full blooded Korean like her mom. But her mom still show a little signs of lighter black hair.

Abra said...

My oldest son is 1/2 his dad (hawaiian japanese) and 1/2 me american mutt...cape verdean, polish, creole, french canadian, american indian)

When he was born he looked Indian (from india)with very asian eyes, straight black hair and tan skin.

He is 17 now, his skin has gotten 50% lighter which baffles me. His hair is much curlier but of course his eyes are still the same.

My point is that with mixed children you never really know what they will look like and chances are good they will change looks several times.

cindybro said...

Hey Ya'll - multiracial folks are HUMAN BEINGS and not some breed of exotic dog that you should use your b.s. pseudo-science on to speculate how offspring will "turn out" - like its some ode to tolerance and diversity. What a ridiculous and de-humanizing conversation. And if you do this to your own kids, then I damn well feel sorry for them. Leave this kind of objectification, racism ("I wouldn't mind my kid having my Korean wife's math skills!") and fetishization to animal breeders and anthropologists.

C said...

Hi there. Maybe I can help you with this question a bit. I'm not Korean, but have Asian heritage. I'm 1/4 Japanese (from my mother's side), then I'm also Irish, German, Cherokee and Scottish - strange mix.

I have almond, dark Asian eyes; red hair; slightly high cheekbones; and a wide nose. :)

C said...

Oh and Cindybro - thanks for your concern. However, as someone of mixed race, I am actually proud of my unique look and do not find it dehumanizing when people notice my asian eyes and ask about my heritage. Instead, I feel proud.

Also, I'm an anthropology major and would appreciate if you were not so quick to judge the field of anthropology. While old anthropology may have been categorical and racist, new anthropology is culturally relativist and does not see value in racial designations. :)

Kate & Donovan said...

This is a good post. My wife is pregnant with our first child and we are wondering what he / she will look like also! (We are not going to find out the gender until birth). My wife is 100% Korean and I am approximately 1/8 spanish, 1/8 mexican, 1/4 native american, 1/8 armenian, 1/4 german and 1/8 swedish. The latter half I usually say is the 'white' half since my dad is basically Caucasian but those are the actual breakdowns as I understand them. I look mixed but nobody is ever sure what to think so it has never been an issue. Anyway all your posts are interesting. I can't wait to see!

Kathe said...

I have a friend who is 100% Korean, and she has two girls with her husband, who is of Scandinavian heritage. The second girl had light blue eyes as a baby. The eyes turned into brown later. I know another half-Korean baby who was born with blue eyes as well, and her white grandmother was perplexed. A friend of mine has three half-Korean and half-white (mainly Polish) cousins, the youngest of who still has blue eyes as a teen. I don't know how common it is for half-Korean babies and children to have blue eyes, but they certainly exist.

Libby said...

I know this old... but I will add. My biological mother is 1/2 Japanese and 1/2 German. I am 1/4 Japanese, German and Swede. I look very German. No one knows I am a quarter Japanese, unless I tell them -- then they will start to find traits and say they see it. Anyhow... my son is 1/8 Japanese, German, Irish, and Swedish. He looks like an Irish Spring commercial: alabaster skin, beautiful ginger coloured hair, long auburn eyelashes, and brown eyes... with a slight epicanthic fold and almond shape. Gorgeous... but NO ONE would ever guess the Japanese heritage.

Phil Sheridan said...

My wife is Korean. I am an Irish/German mix. I have blond hair, blue eyes, european nose, pale skin tone. My wife has black hair, black eyes, asian nose, tan skin tone.

Our three children (1 boy, 2 girls) have brown hair, brown eyes, asian nose, light tan skin tone.

Interestingly, my daughters are identical twins but when the egg split at birth, one looked pure asian and one pure caucasian. The "asian" baby was darker and skinny, the "caucasian" baby was lighter and heavier. As they grew older (now 32 years old), they look more alike (beautiful).

Casey73 said...

My first wife was Korean. I'm German/Irish and we had a daughter together. Her mother an I split when our daughter was a year old and she went back to Korea (we think). She never had contact with her after that.

When my daughter was a toddler, she had curly golden blond hair, green, almond shaped eyes (from my dad)and olive colored skin. In her late teens, her hair color changed to dark brown and became very straight. Now in here early 30's her skin is much lighter, but she still has straight dark brown hair and green eyes. But she has my nose, although thankfully for her it is tempered by her Korean genetics. And she has perfect straight teeth, another genetic gift from her mother. She looks more Korean now than she did as a child. It has been my experience that Asian/Anglo mixed children seem to pull the most attractive features from both sides.

On a side note, I was visiting her early one day and while in her kitchen she opened the fridge, pulled out some left over rice, added some kimchi from a jar and sat down with me while we chatted over coffee. I asked when she started eating kimchi and rice for breakfast and she said she'd been doing it for years. She grew up eating a standard American diet and didn't start eating Korean food until she was in her teens and Korean restaurants started opening in our city. I never mentioned that rice/kimchi was a common quick meal that her mother ate often. I was amazed. It opens up that whole nature vs nurture thing.

boram214 said...

i know this is really old but i couldn't resist a comment...

cindybro: i don't think anyone here is trying to dehumanize multicultural people. it is natural to be curious. in fact, my boyfriend and i are both 100% korean and i'm still curious as hell what our children would look like...