tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post5248081893271151077..comments2024-03-26T03:31:06.199-04:00Comments on Ask a Korean!: Ask a Korean! News: Super Bowl 2010T.K. (Ask a Korean!)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07663422474464557214noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-47604837954740655062010-02-08T04:35:13.129-05:002010-02-08T04:35:13.129-05:00Saints 31, Colts 17
Might I note that I predicte...<b>Saints 31, Colts 17</b> <br /><br />Might I note that <a href="http://kushibo.blogspot.com/2010/02/daily-kor-for-february-8-2010-your.html" rel="nofollow">I predicted Saints 21, Colts 17</a>?kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-17450673156015707862010-02-08T04:33:49.507-05:002010-02-08T04:33:49.507-05:00Joel wrote:
Park is an example of what I'm tal...Joel wrote:<br /><b>Park is an example of what I'm talking about though. It's more important to get a Korean on the team itself rather than put it in a market with a lot of Koreans. In theory the best scenario would be for people to come and visit friends or family in LA and schedule in a visit to see the hometown boy in action, but without the hometown boy on the team they are likely to not attend any games despite the team's convenient location in a city with a large Korean population. I mean how many Koreans take an interest in the Kings just because they're located in LA? I would dare say not too many.</b> <br /><br />But the reason I think TheKorean is right is that the recipe for success is a synergy of the two — an ethnic Korean <i>and</i> an easy-to-reach locale with a lot of Korean-Americans.kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-39034020393205463992010-02-08T04:17:51.718-05:002010-02-08T04:17:51.718-05:00Other then the superbowl, Football in Europe, has ...Other then the superbowl, Football in Europe, has no visibility.<br /><br />But it's starting slowly. with video games, movies and ESPN is now broadcasted in Europe.<br /><br />American football is seen as a violant and stupid sport. Don't ask me why.<br /><br />The super bowl was broadcasted yesterday, but as David said, between 12am and 4am. There is absolutly no one who will watch it, expecpt people who know football and insomniacs. It should be broadcasted again the next day.telloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189588012484710885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-37302035511006207922010-02-08T04:04:29.034-05:002010-02-08T04:04:29.034-05:00Kushibo wrote:
If there were a team in Los Angele...Kushibo wrote:<br /><br /><b>If there were a team in Los Angeles and/or Orange County today, things might be different, particularly if a Hines Ward were playing. I think if we look at Park Chanho as an example you could see that sporting events would become a significant focus of tourism (loads of Korean visitors put a game at Dodger Stadium on their itinerary when Park was playing there) and broadcasting (showing MLB games became a cottage industry in Korea as a direct result of Park's participation in MLB, which later led to the regular broadcasting of some Japanese baseball in Korea as well).</b><br /><br />Park is an example of what I'm talking about though. It's more important to get a Korean on the team itself rather than put it in a market with a lot of Koreans. In theory the best scenario would be for people to come and visit friends or family in LA <i>and</i> schedule in a visit to see the hometown boy in action, but without the hometown boy on the team they are likely to not attend any games despite the team's convenient location in a city with a large Korean population. I mean how many Koreans take an interest in the Kings just because they're located in LA? I would dare say not too many. <br /><br />Your example of Japanese baseball airing in Korea is the same case. Koreans want to see 이승엽 doing well against foreigners and representing Korea in a positive light. It's a source of pride. The fact that this sense of pride can't be gained by competing against fellow Koreans is one of the reasons Korean domestic sports suffer so much (with the exception of baseball which I feel has been given a new birth of life because of Korea's good showing in recent olympics and WBCs.) After watching their favorite players in MLB or European soccer leagues sometimes the attraction can go deeper, but you still need that initial catch.<br /><br />The NFL needs to invest in children's leagues and school teams in diverse communities if they want their players to appeal to diverse markets; particularly with how expensive it is to maintain a football team because of excessive equipment and coaches. <br /><br />The NBA has taken off internationally because of players like AK47, Dirk, Manu, Arroyo, Yao, Yi, Divac, Nash. Even 하승진 who maybe only played in a couple of games for less than 5 minutes became well known and brought some attention to the NBA which has lagged in popularity here since Jordan retired all because he was the first Korean drafted.<br /><br />Anyway all I'm saying is having a team in LA won't hurt the NFL's chances abroad, but it's clearly not the most important factor.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506297835951230830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-14591729616960572082010-02-07T14:05:04.233-05:002010-02-07T14:05:04.233-05:00Joel wrote:
The exchange that goes on between Kore...Joel wrote:<br /><b>The exchange that goes on between Koreans and KAs in LA and Korea has very little effect on how football is perceived in Korea. When LA had teams Koreans weren't interested and if they get a team again they will still likely be uninterested.</b> <br /><br />When LA/OC last had teams, it was 1994, when Korean overseas tourism was only then kicking in. There were no Korean or Asian players of any particular note that I recall. <br /><br />If there were a team in Los Angeles and/or Orange County today, things might be different, particularly if a Hines Ward were playing. I think if we look at Park Chanho as an example you could see that sporting events would become a significant focus of tourism (loads of Korean visitors put a game at Dodger Stadium on their itinerary when Park was playing there) and broadcasting (showing MLB games became a cottage industry in Korea as a direct result of Park's participation in MLB, which later led to the regular broadcasting of some Japanese baseball in Korea as well). <br /><br />I don't think it's a slam dunk, but it I think there's a new potential there owing to very different factors from 1994 and before.kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-51000927964958288332010-02-07T07:46:41.795-05:002010-02-07T07:46:41.795-05:00The story of Fujita was quite touching:-)The story of Fujita was quite touching:-)hcpenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04873196049058280832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-29409085374994788042010-02-07T07:44:31.413-05:002010-02-07T07:44:31.413-05:00I don't know about the viability of football i...I don't know about the viability of football in Asia, but concerning Europe the problem is quite simple: the European media don't care.<br />Why? No idea, maybe because of the soccer lobbies, maybe because they're stupid/too conservative.<br /><br />Football is one of the fastest growing sport in France, it has now as many players as Ice Hockey or other sports that are more covered by the media and more "famous". The French national championship is never ever mentioned, most French people don't even know there's one.<br />In recent years the Superbowl -to my knowledge, the only football game shown live on French TV (not counting satellite TV)- has had up to one million viewers (a huge number for a Sunday night, remember that it takes place from 12AM-4AM in most of Europe).<br /><br />In Germany and England, the sport is even more popular. Yes, Europeans are "ready for some football" but what we need for it to be a success are:<br />-A real national and/or European championship, not something like NFL Europe (basically an American championship taking place in Europe).<br />-A real media coverage from European media and as long as we won't have this, nothing substantial will happen.<br /><br />That being said: Go Saints!Frenchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11985151324486691516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-8472462771758388752010-02-07T05:30:32.113-05:002010-02-07T05:30:32.113-05:00I understand that you really want a franchise in L...I understand that you really want a franchise in LA, but your examples don't really support your position that having a team in LA would help spread the NFL's popularity abroad. <br /><br />If anything your examples of Park, Ward, Yao and Yi show that the NFL should be encouraging and supporting recreational football leagues in Asian countries and predominantly Asian communities so that later they can cull talent and build a fan base abroad as people cheer for someone "like them." <br /><br />The exchange that goes on between Koreans and KAs in LA and Korea has very little effect on how football is perceived in Korea. When LA had teams Koreans weren't interested and if they get a team again they will still likely be uninterested. (This exchange does help fill the rosters of the few football club teams at the SKY universities in Seoul, but doesn't do much to catch the interest of the general population) <br /><br />I think you should focus more on merchandising in next year's rant. Talk about how people in China, Japan, Korea (and everywhere else in the world for that matter) will buy merchandise just because it says LA or NY, so much so that even teams not located in one of these cities have tried to change their names to include the city (e.g. any number of teams that play in NJ but continue to call themselves NY or the Angels trying to become the LA Angels despite being located in Anaheim.)<br /><br />On a side-note I've been thoroughly unimpressed with the Colts ability to win decisively this season, even against sub-par teams like my own Niners. I'm going to call out a friendly beer bet that the Saints win. Feel free to collect next time you're in Seoul if I'm wrong.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07506297835951230830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-21099681591119068522010-02-06T21:58:41.146-05:002010-02-06T21:58:41.146-05:00Korean,
More like gratuitous Toronto bashing, but...Korean,<br /><br />More like gratuitous Toronto bashing, but not really. Besides, where I come from, western Canada, Toronto bashing is bred in the bone.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625452538115548605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-23878041503321708492010-02-06T21:32:06.725-05:002010-02-06T21:32:06.725-05:00Douglas,
Gratuitous Canada bashing! Nice.
John,
...Douglas,<br /><br />Gratuitous Canada bashing! Nice.<br /><br />John,<br /><br />You are right. Correction was made.T.K. (Ask a Korean!)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07663422474464557214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-73215179643597321802010-02-06T20:13:25.796-05:002010-02-06T20:13:25.796-05:00The best part of being an Angeleno was the fact th...The best part of being an Angeleno was the fact that I could watch decent games over regular TV when I lived in L.A. I wasn't forced to endure the torture of watching the crappy Raiders and Rams when there was actually a solid pairing of quality teams taking place elsewhere around the NFL. Anyway, who the hell can afford to actually go to a game nowadays without taking out a 2nd mortgage?<br /><br /><br />Also, I think your statement, "The Korean is 3-0 in those picks, including New York Giants over the 16-1 New England Patriots," is wrong. The Pats were 18-0 and trying to win their 19th for a perfect season. There season ended at 18-1 after the loss to the miracle-producing Giants.John from Daejeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08431973044799010218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-2403941709079207172010-02-06T19:54:26.843-05:002010-02-06T19:54:26.843-05:00Korean,
I agree that it is absurd that there'...Korean,<br /><br />I agree that it is absurd that there's no NFL franchise in the second largest media market in the US. What's even more absurd is that there is a large percentage of people in Toronto that believe that they can and will get a shot at an NFL franchise (Buffalo Bills) ahead of Los Angeles. This is despite the fact that: 1) they can only find 30,000 fans / game to support their own CFL team, the Argonauts. 2) CFL is much more entertaining than the NFL. 3) there is no reason for the NFL to move a franchise a 100 miles north to a market they already have locked down.<br /><br />Now, the Argonauts are a pathetic franchise but how these idiots think that paying $100+ to watch to watch an equally pathetic franchise lose in a less entertaining game will be an improvement is beyond me. It probably has more to do with Toronto's deep seated need to recognized as being in the big leagues as defined by Americans than any real desire for a football team.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625452538115548605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-16742847178549351872010-02-06T13:55:49.864-05:002010-02-06T13:55:49.864-05:00Ah, geez. Now you went and made me write an entire...Ah, geez. Now you went and made me write <a href="http://kushibo.blogspot.com/2010/02/oh-is-that-tomorrow.html" rel="nofollow">an entire post about football</a> (where I agree with you quite a bit). As an enticement, it contains pictures of cheerleaders.kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-56856701768281937932010-02-06T13:36:10.323-05:002010-02-06T13:36:10.323-05:00OP:
Do you want to spread football to other countr...OP:<br /><b>Do you want to spread football to other countries? Then bring a goddamn franchise to Los Angeles.</b> <br /><br />After the NFL left Orange County (the Rams) and Los Angeles (the Raiders), there has been little point in watching professional football. Sure, we have the Chargers in neighboring San Diego County, but they're all the way down there. <br /><br />Simply put, for me the Superbowl is only exciting in that clever new television commercials will be available, and Golden Palace dim sum restaurant will be a little less crowded.kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.com