tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post4947607197725143398..comments2024-03-26T03:31:06.199-04:00Comments on Ask a Korean!: 50 Most Influential K-Pop Artists: 48. DongmulwonT.K. (Ask a Korean!)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07663422474464557214noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-76811864899920319822010-09-02T01:07:28.193-04:002010-09-02T01:07:28.193-04:00I'm using your list as a reference for Korean ...I'm using your list as a reference for Korean music. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-38167922961893477042010-08-25T20:24:06.546-04:002010-08-25T20:24:06.546-04:00@skimmilk
I said before that I'd probably put...@skimmilk<br /><br />I said before that I'd probably put Seo Taiji at #1, and Park Jin Young at #2, but what do I know, my knowledge of K-pop until 2006 is based on what I saw from outside of Korea.<br /><br />And technically, since K-pop has been loosely defined, I'd even be tempted to add West Life in there somewhere, because I hadn't actually heard of them until I visited Korea one day.<br /><br />As for the current groups like Big Bang and 2NE1, I probably wouldn't rank them very highly, if at all, but I swear that if I had made a list in 2008, the WGs would have been in the 40s at least. But my list has got to be a lot different than anyone else's, because it would be peopled by acts which I myself got wind of rather than what was actually influential.<br /><br />Anyway the pace is really slow, so I guess we'll get to #1 sometime in 2012, right?The Seoul Searcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04433656828663327427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-75822159601329864642010-08-25T14:35:21.912-04:002010-08-25T14:35:21.912-04:00The Korean does not want to spoil things, but some...The Korean does not want to spoil things, but some boy/girl bands are ranked... albeit with held nose and clenched teeth.T.K. (Ask a Korean!)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07663422474464557214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-84575185748217516322010-08-25T14:07:16.650-04:002010-08-25T14:07:16.650-04:00@TSS, I highly doubt that either Big Bang or 2NE1 ...@TSS, I highly doubt that either Big Bang or 2NE1 would meet the Korean's criteria for being influential artists. Those two groups are currently popular and although they may be arguably more talented than some other idol groups out there, there's nothing in their resume to show that they have done anything more for the kpop music scene than any other popular idol groups out there. <br /><br />However, for better or for worse, the idol culture has been dominating the kpop scene for the last couple of years, and it is up for debate what will be the lasting legacy of this culture to the Korean music scene at large. What has been the dominant characteristic of this idol culture so far is that the average lifespan of these groups is very short (approx 5 years), and the groups are readily replaceable. Personally, if I were to come up with my own top 50 list, the only idol groups that I may possibly include are H.O.T. for starting this crazy fandom culture (although it can be argued the same that Lee Soo Man was responsible for it), and DBSK for expanding the kpop fandom culture to other parts of Asia. It would be interesting to see whether the Korean would agree with me. My original guess still stands that the #1 will be Jo Yong Pil and #2 Seo Taiji.skimilkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572677638108105106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-62631639119312800452010-08-24T20:29:12.564-04:002010-08-24T20:29:12.564-04:00I'm still interested in where you will place a...I'm still interested in where you will place acts which are still active.<br /><br />I mean, you didn't place the Wonder Girls in the top 50, but I think if you had made the list in 2008 that they would have undoubtedly made the cut.<br /><br />Who's to say that they won't have a Korean revival after their dismal showing in the U.S. is over? <br /><br />Or did JYP catch lightning in a bottle with the "Tell Me" craze, and they're pretty much done for?<br /><br />Who knows.<br /><br />As for Big Bang and 2NE1, I don't know if they make the cut, but who's to say that they won't fall off into obscurity in a little while?The Seoul Searcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04433656828663327427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-88353364310780389802010-08-24T16:42:16.055-04:002010-08-24T16:42:16.055-04:00Very solid list, but here is the Korean's rejo...Very solid list, but here is the Korean's rejoinder:<br /><br />- the Korean valued longevity (which in turn prolongs influence,) which pushed Dongmulwon over Kim Se-Hwan, Yoon Hyeong-Ju, 어떤날 and 시인과 촌장.<br /><br />- Kim Min-Gi is definitely ranked. Yang Hee-Eun's strength mostly comes from singing Kim Min-Gi's songs, so no. Nochatsa is also ranked.<br /><br />- Song Chang-Sik was close, but the Korean thinks Dongmulwon did a better job at representing Korea than Song.<br /><br />- Kim Hyeon-sik was absolutely the toughest omission, and that was mostly based on his short lifespan. But that choice is something that the Korean second-guesses every time, because Yoo Jae-Ha is ranked.T.K. (Ask a Korean!)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07663422474464557214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-19850318722696835702010-08-24T15:15:10.146-04:002010-08-24T15:15:10.146-04:00@The Seoul Searcher, no, you're not weird at a...@The Seoul Searcher, no, you're not weird at all. I'm in my 20s and although I listen to current kpop as well, I tend to gravitate toward Korean music from the 80s and early 90s. There's something nostalgic about music from that time, and even in simple ballad songs, there's something essentially "korean" to it that I feel is gradually getting lost. <br /><br />@AAK, first I'd like to applaud you for introducing others to perhaps lesser known Korean artists and showing that there's more to kpop than bubblegum pop. However, I do question your choice of Dongmulwon, especially since this is a survey of those most influential. If we were to discuss the iconic figures of Korean folk rock, names like Song Chang Shik, Kim Se Hwan, Yoon Hyung Joo, Kim Min Gi, and Yang Hee Eun come to mind, many of whom failed to make your top 50 list and were instead included in your "Just Missed the Cut" list. To say that Dongmulwon could beat out any of these figures is a stretch. Even among the more recent folk artists from the 80s and 90s, I see no reason why you should pick Dongmulwon over others in this genre, such as 노래를 찾는 사람들, 어떤날, 김현식, and 시인과 촌장, especially if your reason for picking Dongmulwon was because they produced music that represented Korea of that time that will be listened to for many years to come. It can be said the same for these artists as well.skimilkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572677638108105106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36405856.post-26779297807635946662010-08-24T00:23:01.018-04:002010-08-24T00:23:01.018-04:00I've never actually heard of Dongmulwon becaus...I've never actually heard of Dongmulwon because my history with K-pop begins in 1994. That's still pretty early for someone who was raised in the U.S.<br /><br />I really appreciate you making these write-ups on bands and acts that I don't even know. When listening to them it's like I'm discovering something new. My Korean colleagues and freinds however think I am crazy for listening to such old music. <br /><br />"Why would you want to listen to that? It's so old!"<br /><br />I don't think in America people would ever say anything similar if, for example I popped in the cranberries, or ace of base. Of course I don't think it's a cultural thing at all, but I've been told by more than one person that my taste in music is weird because my Korean music library contains a lot of music from 1994-1999, most of which is peopled by one hit wonders and others who have fallen into obscurity.The Seoul Searcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04433656828663327427noreply@blogger.com